On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock
<allen at wirfs-brock.com>wrote:

>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Andreas Rossberg wrote:
>
> > On 18 July 2013 18:16, Allen Wirfs-Brock <allen at wirfs-brock.com> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> In fact, the
> >> conclusion/resolution doesn't even say that Symbols will be primitive
> >> values.  All of the bullet items listed there are apply equally to
> either
> >> symbols as primitives or symbols as exotic objects. The current (and
> >> previous, I believe) spec. draft reflects those explicit conclusions.
> >
> > Ah, come on. That was the main point of the proposal, and it's
> > explicit at the beginning of the notes. It was clear to everybody in
> > the room, including you. You went to adopt it in the spec, after all.
>
> Oh, I agree with that.  I was just making a point that the minutes aren't
> always a very reliable record of a discussion.  And that's not meant as a
> criticism of Rick or Arv or anybody else who takes notes.  I couldn't do it
> half as well as they do.
>
>
Apologies for any ambiguity in the notes—I should've reiterated in the
Conclusion/Resolution, but I distinctly remember that Andreas's proposal to
make Symbols a new primitive was indeed accepted.

Rick
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock <allen at wirfs-brock.com>wrote:

> On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Andreas Rossberg wrote:
>
> > On 18 July 2013 18:16, Allen Wirfs-Brock <allen at wirfs-brock.com> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> In fact, the
> >> conclusion/resolution doesn't even say that Symbols will be primitive
> >> values.  All of the bullet items listed there are apply equally to
> either
> >> symbols as primitives or symbols as exotic objects. The current (and
> >> previous, I believe) spec. draft reflects those explicit conclusions.
> >
> > Ah, come on. That was the main point of the proposal, and it's
> > explicit at the beginning of the notes. It was clear to everybody in
> > the room, including you. You went to adopt it in the spec, after all.
>
> Oh, I agree with that.  I was just making a point that the minutes aren't
> always a very reliable record of a discussion.  And that's not meant as a
> criticism of Rick or Arv or anybody else who takes notes.  I couldn't do it
> half as well as they do.
>
>

Apologies for any ambiguity in the notes—I should've reiterated in the
Conclusion/Resolution, but I distinctly remember that Andreas's proposal to
make Symbols a new primitive was indeed accepted.