Tab Atkins Jr. (2014-03-04T18:39:28.000Z)
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Claude Pache <claude.pache at gmail.com> wrote:
> Le 24 févr. 2014 à 19:40, Allen Wirfs-Brock <allen at wirfs-brock.com> a écrit :
>> I don't think this use of the word "turn" is broadly enough known to provide many spec. readers an immediate intuitive feeling for the concept.
>
> It seems to me that the word "turn" is widely used in that sense for turned-based games such as chess, so that it has a good chance to be understood. Or am I mistaken?

I agree with Claude and others who feel that "turn" is confusing - in
every outside use of "turn" as a noun, it refers to the time-slice in
which you take actions, not the actions themselves.  It is sometimes
used slangily to refer to "the things you did during the timeslice",
like "Argh, your turn destroyed my plan, now I've got to think more.",
but in general using "turn" to refer to an action feels extremely
weird to me.

At least for me, this intuition comes from my long experience as a
gamer of various sorts - this usage applies equally to card games,
board games, video games, etc.

I won't die if it ends up getting used, but I'd greatly prefer a different term.

~TJ
domenic at domenicdenicola.com (2014-03-11T14:56:54.374Z)
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Claude Pache <claude.pache at gmail.com> wrote:
> Le 24 févr. 2014 à 19:40, Allen Wirfs-Brock <allen at wirfs-brock.com> a écrit :
>> I don't think this use of the word "turn" is broadly enough known to provide many spec. readers an immediate intuitive feeling for the concept.
>
> It seems to me that the word "turn" is widely used in that sense for turned-based games such as chess, so that it has a good chance to be understood. Or am I mistaken?

I agree with Claude and others who feel that "turn" is confusing - in
every outside use of "turn" as a noun, it refers to the time-slice in
which you take actions, not the actions themselves.  It is sometimes
used slangily to refer to "the things you did during the timeslice",
like "Argh, your turn destroyed my plan, now I've got to think more.",
but in general using "turn" to refer to an action feels extremely
weird to me.

At least for me, this intuition comes from my long experience as a
gamer of various sorts - this usage applies equally to card games,
board games, video games, etc.

I won't die if it ends up getting used, but I'd greatly prefer a different term.