Jason Orendorff (2014-03-15T23:38:00.000Z)
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:19 PM, David Bruant <bruant.d at gmail.com> wrote:
> Even if error prone, I'd be interested to hear about arguments in the sense
> that the risk outweighs the benefits. Iterable-by-default objects is a nice
> "battery included" feature.

I'm pretty sure es-discuss has been over this, but it doesn't hurt to restate:

1. This would mean that evolving any object in any API from *not*
having an @@iterator method to providing its own @@iterator method
would be a backward compatibility risk. Existing code might be using
the default @@iterator to enumerate the object's properties.

2. The default Object.prototype.@@iterator would not appear on
Object.create(null), so the one kind of object people would most want
to have this behavior (Objects specifically created for use as
dictionaries) would be the only kind of object that wouldn't have it.
A separate function would be better—you could apply it to anything
with properties.

Either reason alone would be enough, but to me #1 is a killer.
Platform evolution hazards are bad news. You get stuff like
Array.prototype.values being backed out of browsers, and then you get
stuff like @@unscopables.

I'd like to see an Object.entries method, and Object.values for
completeness. Same visibility rules as Object.keys.

  for (let [k, v] of Object.entries(myObj)) {
      // do something with k and v
  }

-j
domenic at domenicdenicola.com (2014-03-26T23:08:33.976Z)
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:19 PM, David Bruant <bruant.d at gmail.com> wrote:
> Even if error prone, I'd be interested to hear about arguments in the sense
> that the risk outweighs the benefits. Iterable-by-default objects is a nice
> "battery included" feature.

I'm pretty sure es-discuss has been over this, but it doesn't hurt to restate:

1. This would mean that evolving any object in any API from *not*
having an @@iterator method to providing its own @@iterator method
would be a backward compatibility risk. Existing code might be using
the default @@iterator to enumerate the object's properties.

2. The default Object.prototype.@@iterator would not appear on
Object.create(null), so the one kind of object people would most want
to have this behavior (Objects specifically created for use as
dictionaries) would be the only kind of object that wouldn't have it.
A separate function would be better—you could apply it to anything
with properties.

Either reason alone would be enough, but to me #1 is a killer.
Platform evolution hazards are bad news. You get stuff like
Array.prototype.values being backed out of browsers, and then you get
stuff like @@unscopables.

I'd like to see an Object.entries method, and Object.values for
completeness. Same visibility rules as Object.keys.

```js
  for (let [k, v] of Object.entries(myObj)) {
      // do something with k and v
  }
```