Brian Di Palma (2014-10-08T13:57:47.000Z)
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:51 PM, caridy <caridy at gmail.com> wrote:
> last time we discussed this, the conclusion was that `Reflect.global` is the way to go. more details here:
> https://gist.github.com/ericf/a7b40bf8324cd1f5dc73#how-do-we-access-the-global-object-within-a-module
>
> once realms landed, it will reflect `realm.global`.

I guess

import {myGlobalFunction, MyPolyfilledConstructor} from Reflect.global;

then?

> ./caridy
>
> On Oct 8, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Andreas Rossberg <rossberg at google.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8 October 2014 14:11, Brian Di Palma <offler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I didn't realize how limited in power these fast parsers actually
>>> were, they are basically lexers.
>>
>> No, that's not correct. They have to perform a full syntax check. That
>> does not imply binding analysis, though, which is usually regarded
>> part of the static semantics of a language, not its (context-free)
>> syntax. (More by accident than by design, JavaScript so far didn't
>> have much of a static semantics -- at least none that would rule out
>> many programs, i.e., induce compile-time errors. Hence engines could
>> get away with lazy compilation so well.)
>>
>>> I'm doubtful that it would have a significant user perceivable effect though.
>>> I imagine modern browser engines perform a lot of work in parallel
>>> where they can.
>>
>> Unfortunately, parallelism doesn't help here, since this is all about
>> the _initial_ parse (of every source), which has to happen before
>> anything else, and so directly affects start-up times.
>>
>>> One way around having an impact on current workloads is to only parse
>>> in this fashion for modules.
>>
>> Yes, see the earlier posts by Dave an myself. Didn't happen, though.
>>
>>> As these modules would be stand alone fast parsing should be
>>> embarrassingly parallel.
>>
>> You can indeed parallelise parsing and checking of separate modules,
>> but each individual task would still take longer, so there would still
>> have been a potential overall cost.
>>
>>> Yes hoisting is another complication, more bookkeeping, it will
>>> probably delay when an error can be raised.
>>> But would you not have to deal with it anyway? Can you not export a
>>> hoisted function?
>>
>> Yes, as I said, recursive scoping (a.k.a. "hoisting") is neither a new
>> nor a significant problem.
>>
>>> Fully closed modules are as you said are probably too tedious - that
>>> can be dropped.
>>> It's more about making modules closed against user defined state as
>>> opposed to system defined state.
>>
>> Yes, but unfortunately, you cannot distinguish between the two in
>> JavaScript -- globals, monkey patching, and all that lovely stuff.
>>
>> /Andreas
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domenic at domenicdenicola.com (2014-10-15T18:58:52.701Z)
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:51 PM, caridy <caridy at gmail.com> wrote:
> last time we discussed this, the conclusion was that `Reflect.global` is the way to go. more details here:
> https://gist.github.com/ericf/a7b40bf8324cd1f5dc73#how-do-we-access-the-global-object-within-a-module
>
> once realms landed, it will reflect `realm.global`.

I guess

```js
import {myGlobalFunction, MyPolyfilledConstructor} from Reflect.global;
```

then?