even stensberg (2016-04-17T19:42:59.000Z)
Could we use XOR? We would set the variable to false by default, meaning if
it doesn't contain any values, it will return the OR property. By example:

true is a string and boolean in the first example and boolean in the other
one.

`var false = false || 'true'` This means: false XOR false XOR true = true
if it is set, we use true XOR true XOR false = false , which will return
the value of our variable.

Example by function: ` function() {
 var false = true
 evalToTrue()
 // outputs 'true'
 }`

`function() {
var false = false
evalToTrue()
// outputs the value of false
}

`evalToTrue()` here means the XOR calculation.

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Jordan Harband <ljharb at gmail.com> wrote:

> This has been discussed many times before:
>  - https://esdiscuss.org/topic/operators-and
>  - https://esdiscuss.org/topic/logical-assignment-operators
>  - https://esdiscuss.org/topic/is-much-needed
>  - https://esdiscuss.org/topic/please-add-orequal-operator
>
> If you read through these threads, you may find that it's not as
> straightforward as you think. Would it use truthiness? "not null or
> undefined"? Just "not undefined"? If it behaves differently than `II`, what
> about all the confusion that would cause, since it would be the first "LHS
> x-equals RHS" that didn't behave the same as "LHS equals LHS x RHS"?
>
> A proposal would, at the least, need to have addressed all these concerns
> as well as made it clear that it had located and addressed all prior
> concerns on the subject, such as the ones linked above.
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 6:21 AM, even stensberg <evenstensberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've seen a lot of code using an extra type to have as a fallback. This
>> to me seems like not a very good way of putting use of the logical OR.
>> Here's an example:
>>
>> `var itemList = itemList || 'something went extremely wrong'`
>>
>>
>> This is a really hacky way of doing things. I don't think you should
>> assign your variable to a default by doing this.
>>
>>
>> Been back and forth by this "issue" with some of the ReactJS members at
>> GitHub, and while saying this is a "stylus" thing, I disagree. It is more
>> about not reiterating your code.
>>
>> Options could be:
>>
>> -tenaries - long & !clean codelines
>> -default params (ES) , though it won't be a general use case
>>
>> There is already a lot of assignment, string and so on operators, but I
>> don't really seem any of them touch this, except maybe the bit-wise OR
>> assignment Operator. To read more about that, check these two links out:
>>
>> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/81bads72(v=vs.94).aspx
>> http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~bartlett/jsops.html
>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/14871137/5893008
>>
>> And that is really not the use case here. We don't want a bit-wise, we
>> want a logical OR.
>>
>> So here is what I come up with. It's not rocket science but ... nah, it's
>> pretty straight forward..
>>
>> `var listItem || = 'I love open source!'`
>>
>>
>> For me, this is one thousand times more clean and it makes sense.
>> JavaScript teaches us and wants us to use `+ =`,` - =` and any other
>> type of "abbreviation" , so this makes perfectly sense for me. Either I'm
>> crazy, but it seems like this should have been implemented a long time ago.
>> ( Perhaps I'm both).
>>
>> Implementation will be another issue, but let us discuss that too( just
>> keep in mind this is conceptional)
>>
>>
>> Without further ado, I leave this up to you to discuss, and hopefully a
>> champion to fetch up to the committee.
>>
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evenstensberg at gmail.com (2016-04-17T19:51:02.326Z)
Could we use XOR? We would set the variable to false by default, meaning if
it doesn't contain any values, it will return the OR property. By example:

true is a string and boolean in the first example and boolean in the other
one.

`var false = false || 'true'` This means: false XOR false XOR true = true
if it is set, we use true XOR true XOR false = false , which will return
the value of our variable.

Example by function: ` function() {
 var false = true
 evalToTrue()
 // outputs 'true'
 }`


`function() {
var false = false
evalToTrue()
// outputs the value of false
}`

`evalToTrue()` here means the XOR calculation.

This might be a duplicate of what someone else have already said though, we can swap out falsy with undefined etc I assume.
evenstensberg at gmail.com (2016-04-17T19:48:00.329Z)
Could we use XOR? We would set the variable to false by default, meaning if
it doesn't contain any values, it will return the OR property. By example:

true is a string and boolean in the first example and boolean in the other
one.

`var false = false || 'true'` This means: false XOR false XOR true = true
if it is set, we use true XOR true XOR false = false , which will return
the value of our variable.

Example by function: ` function() {
 var false = true
 evalToTrue()
 // outputs 'true'
 }`


`function() {
var false = false
evalToTrue()
// outputs the value of false
}`

`evalToTrue()` here means the XOR calculation.

This might be a duplicate of what someone else have already said though.
evenstensberg at gmail.com (2016-04-17T19:47:23.373Z)
Could we use XOR? We would set the variable to false by default, meaning if
it doesn't contain any values, it will return the OR property. By example:

true is a string and boolean in the first example and boolean in the other
one.

`var false = false || 'true'` This means: false XOR false XOR true = true
if it is set, we use true XOR true XOR false = false , which will return
the value of our variable.

Example by function: ` function() {
 var false = true
 evalToTrue()
 // outputs 'true'
 }`

This might be a duplicate of what someone else have already said though.
`function() {
var false = false
evalToTrue()
// outputs the value of false
}`

`evalToTrue()` here means the XOR calculation.
evenstensberg at gmail.com (2016-04-17T19:43:49.986Z)
Could we use XOR? We would set the variable to false by default, meaning if
it doesn't contain any values, it will return the OR property. By example:

true is a string and boolean in the first example and boolean in the other
one.

`var false = false || 'true'` This means: false XOR false XOR true = true
if it is set, we use true XOR true XOR false = false , which will return
the value of our variable.

Example by function: ` function() {
 var false = true
 evalToTrue()
 // outputs 'true'
 }`

`function() {
var false = false
evalToTrue()
// outputs the value of false
}`

`evalToTrue()` here means the XOR calculation.