Viktor Kronvall (2016-09-14T07:58:12.000Z)
Does this really need new semantic interpretation of the syntax? Using the
`Array.prototype` methods `.forEach` and `.map` already mitigates this
problem as far as I can tell by having a different bound variable (argument
in this case) for each call.

I agree that the behavior may be non-intuitive if you have a background
coming from Java or C++ but the implications would be quite far-reaching
and the backward compatibility with previous versions would be difficult to
handle. Wouldn't this require a new 'use strict'-like mode?
2016年9月14日(水) 7:51 Dan Peddle <dan at flarework.com>:

> An alternative to the block which you ended up with is to extract that
> logic to a function, which provides something which can be tested too.
> Possibly overkill for oneliners like this though.
>
> However, writing a lot of code like this myself (get a value, if it's
> truthy do something, else do other), that's a nice idea for an extension
> that doesn't add extra variable bindings to the containing scope.
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Danielle McLean <gopsychonauts at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In current ECMAScript, it is legal to place a variable declaration inside
>> the
>> initialiser of a `for` loop, as well as to declare the variable used by a
>> `for...in` or `for...of` loop within the declaring expression:
>>
>>     for (let i = 0; i < 5; ++i) console.log(i);
>>     for (let item of collection) process(item);
>>
>> When this syntax is used with `let` or `const`, the resulting variable is
>> scoped to the loop and is not visible to the rest of the surrounding
>> block.
>>
>> I propose that this syntax be extended, making it legal to place a
>> variable
>> declaration within the condition of an `if` or `while` statement. Any
>> truthy
>> value will cause the `if` block to run or `while` loop to repeat, as
>> usual -
>> the advantage is that the particular truthy value is bound to a variable
>> and
>> can be used inside the conditional block. For example, here is the
>> situation
>> that prompted my writing this proposal:
>>
>>     if (const oldValue = _.get(object, 'some.long.path')) {
>>       object.some.long.path = transform(oldValue);
>>     }
>>
>> As with the existing behaviour of declarations inside `for`, variables
>> declared
>> using `let` or `const` would be scoped to the individual `if` or `while`
>> statement, rather than the containing block. In other words, the above
>> syntax
>> would be equivalent to the following currently-valid form I ended up
>> writing:
>>
>>     {
>>       const oldValue = _.get(object, 'some.long.path');
>>       if (oldValue) object.some.long.path = transform(oldValue);
>>     }
>>
>> Another use case which C aficianados might recognise:
>>
>>     while (const c = getchar()) {
>>         process(c);
>>     }
>>
>> This syntax is already legal in C++, although not in C - in general this
>> support is known as "anaphoric if", as it allows the body of the
>> statement to
>> refer back to the condition value. It's especially helpful in languages
>> with
>> truthiness, which ECMAScript has, as it allows access to the *specific*
>> truthy
>> value without further finagling.
>>
>> Thoughts?
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forbes at lindesay.co.uk (2016-09-16T09:49:10.477Z)
Does this really need new semantic interpretation of the syntax? Using the
`Array.prototype` methods `.forEach` and `.map` already mitigates this
problem as far as I can tell by having a different bound variable (argument
in this case) for each call.

I agree that the behavior may be non-intuitive if you have a background
coming from Java or C++ but the implications would be quite far-reaching
and the backward compatibility with previous versions would be difficult to
handle. Wouldn't this require a new 'use strict'-like mode?