T.J. Crowder (2017-03-18T19:12:56.000Z)
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Jordan Harband <ljharb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd think with the advent of private fields a much more
>
common (and better) use case would not involve creating
>
publicly visible properties - how might that work?
>
> Perhaps this:
> ```js
> class Foo {
>   constructor(#x, #y) { }
> }
> ```
>

It seems strange to me to advertise your private properties like that, but
of course, the source is right there anyway...

Worth noting the TypeScript prior art:

```js
// (TypeScript)
class Example {
    constructor(public x, public y) {
    }
}
const e = new Example(1, 2);
console.log(e.x); // 1
console.log(e.y); // 2
```

Note the access modifier on the parameters. (`private` works as well.)

So quite similar to Jordan's `constructor(#x, #y)` for private data (if
that horrible `#` does in fact happen in the private data proposal), and to
"just nobody"'s `constructor(this.x, this.y)` for instance properties.

I don't see any point to having this on methods. On constructors, I suppose
it's a bit of convenience.

More prior art, this time from C#, which shifts the burden from the
constructor to the call to it: You can set accessible properties in an
initializer after the call to the constructor:

```c#
var obj = new Example() { x = 1, y = 2};
Console.WriteLine(obj.x); // 1
Console.WriteLine(obj.x); // 2
```

-- T.J. Crowder

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Jordan Harband <ljharb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd think with the advent of private fields a much more common (and
> better) use case would not involve creating publicly visible properties -
> how might that work?
>
> Perhaps this:
> ```js
> class Foo {
>   constructor(#x, #y) { }
> }
> ```
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:00 AM, just nobody <kingdaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Inherited methods would inherit the same behavior, since this is just
>> syntactic sugar after all.
>> ```js
>> class Point {
>>   setPosition(this.x, this.y) {}
>>
>>   // same as
>>   // setPosition(x, y) { this.x = x; this.y = y }
>> }
>>
>> class Rectangle extends Point {
>>   setSize(this.width, this.height) {}
>>
>>   // same as
>>   // setSize(width, height) { this.width = width; this.height = height }
>> }
>>
>> let rect = new Rectangle()
>> rect.setPosition(0, 0)
>> rect.setSize(50, 50)
>> rect // { x: 0, y: 0, width: 50, height: 50 }
>> ```
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 7:12 AM Michael J. Ryan <tracker1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting concept... What about inheritance?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael J. Ryan - tracker1 at gmail.com - http://tracker1.info
>>>
>>> Please excuse grammar errors and typos, as this message was sent from my
>>> phone.
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2017 12:03 AM, "just nobody" <kingdaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to have syntax like this? It's a feature supported
>>> by other JS variants in some way (CoffeeScript, TS) that feels missing from
>>> the spec. It's mainly useful as a convenient, terse way of setting
>>> properties of an object on initialization.
>>>
>>> ```js
>>> class Rectangle {
>>>   constructor (this.x, this.y, this.width, this.height) {}
>>>   setPosition(this.x, this.y) {}
>>>   setSize(this.width, this.height) {}
>>> }
>>>
>>> // equivalent to
>>> class Rectangle {
>>>   constructor (x, y, width, height) {
>>>     this.x = x
>>>     this.y = y
>>>     this.width = width
>>>     this.height = height
>>>   }
>>>
>>>   // ...
>>> }
>>>
>>> // for regular constructor functions as well
>>> function Rectangle (this.x, this.y, this.width, this.height) {}
>>> ```
>>>
>>> Deconstructing and argument defaults should all work similarly
>>> ```js
>>> function Point({ x: this.x, y: this.y }) {}
>>> function Point(this.x = 0, this.y = 0) {}
>>> function Point([this.x, this.y]) {}
>>> ```
>>>
>>>
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tj.crowder at farsightsoftware.com (2017-03-18T19:21:32.159Z)
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Jordan Harband <ljharb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd think with the advent of private fields a much more
> common (and better) use case would not involve creating
> publicly visible properties - how might that work?
>
> Perhaps this:
> ```js
> class Foo {
>   constructor(#x, #y) { }
> }
> ```

It seems strange to me to advertise your private properties like that, but
of course, the source is right there anyway...

Worth noting the TypeScript prior art:

```js
// (TypeScript)
class Example {
    constructor(public x, public y) {
    }
}
const e = new Example(1, 2);
console.log(e.x); // 1
console.log(e.y); // 2
```

Note the access modifier on the parameters. (`private` works as well.)

So quite similar to Jordan's `constructor(#x, #y)` for private data (if
that horrible `#` does in fact happen in the private data proposal), and to
"just nobody"'s `constructor(this.x, this.y)` for instance properties.

I don't see any point to having this on methods. On constructors, I suppose
it's a bit of convenience.

More prior art, this time from C#, which shifts the burden from the
constructor to the call to it: You can set accessible properties in an
initializer after the call to the constructor:

```c#
var obj = new Example() { x = 1, y = 2};
Console.WriteLine(obj.x); // 1
Console.WriteLine(obj.y); // 2
```

-- T.J. Crowder