Outreach? (was Coordination/ES6 Modules)

# Rick Waldron (12 years ago)

cc es-discuss.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Dirk Pranke <dpranke at chromium.org> wrote:

One takeaway I have from both my own recent efforts to understand the state of ES6 and the recent threads on es-discuss and public-script-coord is that I think someone should be doing a better job of outreach for TC39.

Most of the official public documentation for TC39 (the Wiki, the meeting notes) is written for the members of the committee much more so than for the interested public.

This is, in a sense, entirely appropriate, and consistent with how all the other language standards groups I've been aware of work. But it is hard to interpret for outsiders.

To take Anne's question that started these threads, it's almost completely unclear to me as a web-dev how exactly we'd expect ES6 modules will work. There is almost no discussion on the wiki of what changes in HTML and JavaScript pages, for example. Even the harmony:modules_examples page is extremely terse, and gives no discussion of what the exeucution order for the modules and scripts are ... what blocks, what doesn't? (I don't actually want the answers to these questions in this thread).

Perhaps we need more JS-developer (or web-friendly) documentation? Maybe some of the member companies should more actively write about upcoming things in ES6 the way they do for new features being added to HTML5?

I'm one of jQuery's representatives on Ecma/TC39 and I'll be honest—catering to my peers in the community is exhausting. This is not me dismissing you, but you should just subscribe to JavaScript Weekly ( javascriptweekly.com). Dr. Axel Rauschmayer (who is very active on es-discuss) curates the content and it always has some ES6 related updates (news, changes, coverage) in "accessible" forms. In fact, his blog is quite good for consuming the "new parts" in digestible portions.

I've cc'ed es-discuss, because you didn't, and I assume this message was actually for es-discuss and/or TC39 members to see.

# Dirk Pranke (12 years ago)

you should just subscribe to JavaScript Weekly

Thanks for the pointer; I wasn't actually aware of that site. I tried to be careful not to suggest that the TC39 members themselves should be doing more outreach, not that you're not all capable of it, but it is a lot of work.

I've cc'ed es-discuss

I figure most of the TC39 members are also on public-script-coord, but that's fine. Thanks!